I absolutely believe in the ultimate salvation of all but the particulars of Revelation have and still are a road block for me. It’s like a fire that I am attracted to and repelled from.
Having said that, I’ve never understood the Second Death to be literal. However, I do not believe it is a high old time either. Death is always painful. Dying to self is always hard.
We know sons are chastised, we know that the end of those who are enemies of the cross is Destruction (again, not hell). Martin brings out that the Lake of Fire IS the second death. I finally can see that. It burns with fire and brimstone. But how is that not torture in a literally lake of death in a physical body? I don’t see that as Truth. I see the chastising spirit of God cleansing those in the Lake and it Hurts because dying to self hurts. Because Truth hurts. As L. Ray Smith would say, spiritual things are Real things.
Hello Martin,
I loved this recording…As a child, I had been indoctrinated into the Catholic religion…left that religion in my late teens…back in the mid 80’s when I believed I was first “saved”, I was loving God so much that I wanted to do something “really special” for him… and I believed that “special thing” was to assassinate the Pope for Him…Yep, I was ready to kill for God… All because I loved God so much! Kept waiting for God to give me instructions as to how I was going to get this done for Him…The days went by, and I never got any instructions…Was somewhat disappointed to say the least…The Pope continued on in life, and God never had me kill anyone… It just wasn’t my calling… Discovered years later, after becoming a member of the Body of Christ, that God had/has something far more glorious planned for me than wiping out the Pope….
Lynn 🙂
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I absolutely believe in the ultimate salvation of all but the particulars of Revelation have and still are a road block for me. It’s like a fire that I am attracted to and repelled from.
Having said that, I’ve never understood the Second Death to be literal. However, I do not believe it is a high old time either. Death is always painful. Dying to self is always hard.
We know sons are chastised, we know that the end of those who are enemies of the cross is Destruction (again, not hell). Martin brings out that the Lake of Fire IS the second death. I finally can see that. It burns with fire and brimstone. But how is that not torture in a literally lake of death in a physical body? I don’t see that as Truth. I see the chastising spirit of God cleansing those in the Lake and it Hurts because dying to self hurts. Because Truth hurts. As L. Ray Smith would say, spiritual things are Real things.
Hello Martin,
I loved this recording…As a child, I had been indoctrinated into the Catholic religion…left that religion in my late teens…back in the mid 80’s when I believed I was first “saved”, I was loving God so much that I wanted to do something “really special” for him… and I believed that “special thing” was to assassinate the Pope for Him…Yep, I was ready to kill for God… All because I loved God so much! Kept waiting for God to give me instructions as to how I was going to get this done for Him…The days went by, and I never got any instructions…Was somewhat disappointed to say the least…The Pope continued on in life, and God never had me kill anyone… It just wasn’t my calling… Discovered years later, after becoming a member of the Body of Christ, that God had/has something far more glorious planned for me than wiping out the Pope….
Lynn 🙂
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